Friday, November 18, 2011

Can i be punished harder than a regular civilian for fighting on the street?

im a 25 year old no holds barred mixed martial arts fighter or commonly known as a ultimate fighter. as a registered fighter can i have more heavy punishment for fighting on the street?

Can i be punished harder than a regular civilian for fighting on the street?
If you are in fact in martial arts you should know the answer to this question. Once you reach a certain level, or belt, your hands/feet are considered legal weapons aren't they? If that is true, then you could be facing heavier penalties for fighting on the street.
Reply:You can do whatever you want with a good lawyer
Reply:Yes absolutely. Being registered makes you responsible for any damage you accidentally cause, the logic being that as a trained fighter you should actually know better. For example, if someone dies as a result of your actions, you'd be held for murder instead of manslaughter.
Reply:Yes I belive your skills can be classified as a dealy weapon. This is only my opinion not bacaked by facts.
Reply:Not by law that I am aware of, but a jury would almost certainly treat you more harshly as would a lot of judges.
Reply:My son is also a fighter and he goes to fight in tournaments and then doesn't have to worry about getting arrested for it he does it legal
Reply:YES!!! Haven't you seen that movie Con Air? If you have some sort of license to fight or above a certain level in martial arts, the law considers that a weapon. You could get charged with assualt with a deadly weapon instead of just assault etc..
Reply:Yep your body is consider a deadly weapon now. You can be tried for attempted murder. Just as if you were using a gun or knife.
Reply:No. Martial arts experience would be more likely to get you a more LENIENT punishment than no martial arts experience. Although you shouldn't be fighting on the street in the first place so the question is moot
Reply:You bet your ***! Especially if the judge or jury deems that you took advantage of a weaker person by using your skills in an abusive manner. If it's self defense, like you beat up a mugger, then they would side with you. But if you are the agressor for no good reason you will get the shaft in a court room.
Reply:YES YOU COULD, BUT IF I WAS THE JUDGE I WOULD LOOK AT THE SITUATION FIRST.
Reply:it depends if ur going to use ur nutts to crack them upside their head!
Reply:Your skill could be considered a weapon. You can only use the amount of force used against you. Example... If an old lady is running at you with her shoe you cannot just whip out a gun on her. That would be excessive force. In your case you could probably only use your type of fighting if someone was threatening your life with a gun or other deadly weapon. But, if you are going to just use it against someone who cannot produce the same amount of force you are applying you will most likely get a harsh punishment if death or injury are results.
Reply:Yes


Ask A Cop


Minimum is a felony Conviction for


Assault with the Possibilty of Great Bodily Harm


You can get 5 years 1st time offense


Tank Abbott found this out


And even Challenging person on the street can be a felony


Register can be as simple as people know you train, thats a fact that can be proved right? Thats registered. To many think I am not registered WTF?


If any I mean anyone is aware you train, and you go apply what you train in to harm a personm, GOOD LUCK IN COURT!


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Reply:I believe so....if a lawyer can prove the damage you are capable of inflicting it will greately increase your sentence....why would you be fighting in the streets anyway....
Reply:If you get heavier punishment for your acts, you have a case of bias that you could pursue. "Registering your hands" as lethal weapons is an urban legend. Go to the martial arts section of Y/A and ask them about this matter.
Reply:No. Everyone has the right to defend themself. In fact the law would consider you a fool if you stood there and let some slob beat the tar out of you. NO! You take care of business. The other guy started it and you finished it, PERIOD.





And what's all this "registered" garbage? I fought as a pro kickboxer for years and never had to register for anything. Seems like there's a lot of posers on here.
Reply:The following applies to everyone whether trained in martial arts or not. The difference is that a trained martial artist should be even more aware of how much force is considered reasonable.





One can only use as much force as is reasonable in the circumstances to:





• prevent a crime;


• effect or assist in the lawful arrest of offenders or suspected offenders;


• effect or assist in the lawful arrest of persons unlawfully at large;


• defend oneself;


• defend one’s property;


• defend another.





A person who is attacked or believes that he is about to be attacked may use such force as is reasonably necessary to defend himself or another or to defend his property. If he uses reasonable force he will be acting in lawful self-defense, and would not be guilty of an offence. A person does not need to be attacked before he can avail himself of self defense.





If he believes that he is about to be attacked he can strike pre-emptively. There is no requirement to retreat when attacked even if the opportunity to do so presents itself. Failing to avail oneself of such an opportunity is simply a factor to be taken into account in deciding whether it was necessary to use force at all.





Therefore there are two questions for a jury to address in deciding whether someone has acted in self defense. Firstly, an individual can only be properly said to be acting in self defense if in all the circumstances he honestly believes that it is necessary for him to defend himself, his property, or another and the second question is whether the amount of force which he uses in doing so is reasonable. So an individual who is acting out of revenge, bravado, or aggression does not act in lawful self-defense because in all those circumstances he could not honestly believe that it was


necessary for him to defend himself, and as such he would be guilty of the offense charged.





If the jury decides that a person may have been acting in the honest belief that it was necessary for him to defend himself, they must then consider whether the amount of force used was reasonable taking into consideration the circumstances and the danger that person honestly believed himself to be in at the time.





If you are trained in martial arts, you can bet that the prosecuter will do everything in his power to prove that you used excessive force regardless of what actually happened.





The other side of the discussion is if you would use your skills at all and risk being injured yourself? Have you ever notice how boxers and other athletes don't throw actual punches when they get into fights? That is because a boxer makes a living with his hands and doesn't want to risk his livelyhood doing something stupid like punching out some drunk in a bar.
Reply:A book for you to read is "The Law and Martial Arts" by Carl Brown. It is a good book with accounts of how the law has treated martial artists in the past pertaining to court proceedings. I read it and was surprised by a few incidents.
Reply:Yes. Since you have training in fighting you are held accountable on a higher level that the average person fighting. With great power comes great responsibility?
Reply:its depend sin your trianed in martial arts then yes but just cause you enteretd a tournment that not mean anyhting since alot of tournments will allow anyone to enter but just be careful dont styart a fight and if your attacked just do what you have to to defend yourself
Reply:Depends on where you live. Law is different in every state. Texas does not have such a law. We don't "register" here. As a professional you might be held more liable for what you've done. However that's a huge might.





In your case I would say no... you have nothing to worry about. They would have to prove intent and intention. Judging by your grammar and sentence structure.. I think that would be a very hard thing to accuse you of.


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