Judo or Krav Maga for street fighting?

Hi, I am undecided to which one to choose although I favor Judo. The reason: I studied hapkido and think its a bit useless for fighting at bars/clubs, the reason is that it has so many movements that you don't remember, other useless stuff such as show jumps, and finally hard to perform kicks that require daily stretching to make them work.


So a friend of mine who studied Judo seems to remember all the moves after 20 years, and I notice that since there are no kicks in judo, basically you can always apply what you learned effectively, plus nobody expects you to throw them to the ground, they are always expecting punches and stuff.





On the other hand krav maga is made for real situations, however I have seen videos and they focus to much on disarming the enemy, I would never fight a thief armed with a knife or gun, its just plain stupid. I like the fact that they are supposed to train with realism,.

Judo or Krav Maga for street fighting?
Krav Maga
Reply:hey well it depends Krav Maga will teach you alot quickly as well as some really effective stuff but if you are looking for the long term probably go with Judo. I would recommend trying out both the schools for a week or 2 because you might find you really don't like one of the schools or instructors which will make you decision easier. So really it comes down to personality. I'll also add krav maga is a lot more brutal and more break the guys arm so he can't get you while judo will teach you to just hold them down with less physical damage unless you decide to break their elbow once you have them in an armbar.
Reply:Judo but only if you intend to compete.





I can do high side kicks without stretching and lift my foot up to chest level without momentum (front and side) even though I'm not very flexible at all. The only stretching I do is knuckles to the ground. I just have a lot of strength and endurance in my hip muscles. Kicks are good for self-defense but they are very slow for beginners. I was doing competitive swimming since I was 12 so when I joined TKD and MT at 18 yrs old I was already kicking harder than the black belts though not with as much precision or height.





A good hard low kick can stop a fight, create and opening, or knock someone off balance so that any punch they throw will not have power.
Reply:Krav Maga!
Reply:Use whatever works man. Don't worry about fixed "Styles". Instead, worry about YOUR OWN expression of combat. Let your own individual art have all ranges of combat. Just because your MA instructor's way of combat doesn't include all the ranges, that doesn't mean that your way of combat has to lack too. Just because Judo training doesn't include strikes or kicks, why should that stop you from using them on the streets? Just ask yourself why.





Hell, take both Krav Maga and Judo if you want, and use the techniques that work the best for you. From the techniques of these two arts, you can create your own foundation of techniques and strategies. Being as you would have a base, you can then later on learn other techniques at random and modify them for your personal needs and the actual combat situation. That is the key.





To put it in easier terms and for an example, if you take Judo and fight the exact same way that your sensai taught you, you are faling as a true martial artist because you are fighting in a fixed manner that is actually tailored for someone else. It is not your own unique expression. Plus fixed patterns means that you can't flow in actual combat.





EDIT - This is not really pertaining to the whole point of your question, but I did notice a flaw in a certain part that you mentioned......You said that you took Hapkido and you said "IT'S" a bit useless for fighting at bars/clubs. You have to remember that the martial art itself doesn't fight. It's the artist. Hapkido in itself...no, let me rephrase that....Martial arts in themselves are lifeless. They are concepts and not objects that make you fight in a certain fixed way. I don't know why so many people think that martial arts themselves do the fighting.





It all depends on how you apply your techniques...in other words, how you express your art. If I were you, I would have continued to learn Hapkido. If the instructor taught techniques that were useless, that doesn't mean that you had to use them. You can just toss them to the side or either modify them.
Reply:Judo is very good and training in a striking art like Kenpo Karate or Muy Thai is "Excellent".


Consider combining arts for a "complete defense system"
Reply:for real situation muay thai is best ..on street fight its really difficult to beat muay thai .....but if u have only two option judo and krav maga then go for krav maga coz it will teach u how to fight on street threats...u also mentioned tat u wanna fight in night clubs so if u will learn judo then tats gonna b useless in night club