Sunday, April 26, 2009

Street-Fighting. Which is practical, Wing Chun or Kenpo?

I want to learn how to street fight. Which do you think is most practical when I'm in a bar about to get mixed up with some good old bar fight?





Wing Chun or Kenpo?





Please share some thoughts.

Street-Fighting. Which is practical, Wing Chun or Kenpo?
Both would be effective.
Reply:Depends on how long you're willing to see results and what type of fighter you want to become.





Wing Chun takes a long time to make work. It takes a number of years to adjust to the flow.





Kenpo is quick and dirty. But you won't be doing stuff that has that "wow" factor.





So, it depends on what kind of street fighter you want to be: the "get down and dirty" fighter type...then, go with kempo, or the "smooth and intuitive" fighter type --- Wing Chun.
Reply:I would say both are effective. But neither is as effective as MMA, or BJJ.





The fact is, if you are talking strictly about fighting in the street, no formal martial art compares with these new combat styles.





Martial arts have their place, but down and dirty street fighting is not it.
Reply:Wing Chun would be most useful in a Bar situation...


The movements are tight as well as the punches...


There usually isn't a lot of room to work in...


The block and redirection of the Wing Chun movements will allow for very quick strikes...


The foot work, parrying kicks will make quick work of an aggressor as well as affording you the time and ability to see if any of his buddies are going to join in...
Reply:i have heard a lot of good things about both martial arts, but i know most about wing chun. wing chun would be a good idea for a self defence. it will build up very quick reflexives and fast punches. you will get very good at blocking attacks and retaliating with speed. also, you will learn how to punch in tight spaces where either the oponent is up close to you or there is no room
Reply:Both are if you get proper instruction. In a bar fight you probably just want to hit first and hard, so I would say Wing Chun. Bad idea though, I've seen many people get hit in the head with bottles in a bar fight.
Reply:Go to a different bar. Someone picks a fight, walk away.





For practicallity, Kenpo is less artsy as Wing Chun, but is still pretty flashy.





To learn to street fight, you just have to fight alot in the streets. Other practical martial arts for street encounters are Taijutsu (what I practice and recommend), Aikido, Hapkido, Jeet Kune Do, Jui-Jutsu, Boxing
Reply:Wing Chun is as simple or as "flashy" as you make it... If you can pak sao and bil sao then you can deal with just about any type of attack, yes including elbows though tan to yin bong is better in my opinion for elbow defence.





Sorry, this doesn't answer your question does it?





End of the day Wing Chun is one of the simplest and hardest arts to apply and learn. It is also dirty and focuses heavily on application if taught correctly.





The Wing Chun idea is to strike the eyes, break the joints, attack the throat ect ect. It's not a flowery or nice art at all. It was originally designed for combat, it is in essence a military style and you will find that if you compare it to things like Krav Maga ect it has many similarities in strategy, but you know at the end of the day how many ways can you peel a banana? There are only so may ways that the human body can move.
Reply:Either style, can be effective in a street fight, depending on how good the teacher (sensei, sifu) is. Kenpo is designed with self-defense in mind with many pre-set kumite, and Wing Chun is a more traditional form of Kung Fu. If there are places that teach each in your area, I'd personally choose Wing Chun, not because it's better but because how hard it is to find Wing Chun schools! (There are none here in Pittsburgh) Both though are excellent systems.
Reply:Both could be very effective. Which system of kenpo ?
Reply:I like both styles, but kenpo is a close combat style. As far as for using jiu jitsu...I dont want to roll around on the floor of any bar. I love mma, but the one limit to it is certain strikes that are really useful in a street fight are taken out for safety of the fighters.
Reply:Kajukenbo. it has Kenpo in it. It was created for JUST THAT. Look it up Emporado.com
Reply:The most practical would be to walk away. If all else fails and you can not get out of the situation and it is inevitable that its going down. Wing Chun. Wing Chun was adopted by the Triads because they saw that Wing Chun students didn't lose street fights. If its good enough for the tough streets of Hong Kong its more then good enough for the local bar scene. Most bar fights are going to last 10-15 seconds. In that time period you need to destroy your opponent and Wing Chun will give you that ability. You are not going to fight 3, 3min rds and eventually choke out your opponent waiting for the bouncer to break it up or while his buddy smashes a bottle over the back of your head. As with any art its not the art but the practitioner. You can study the "best" form out there but if you don't practice and apply, makes no difference what you study. You are going to lose the fight.
Reply:"Learn to street fight ".That means dirty no rules do what you gotta do to survive.Wing chun is great for inside fighting and more ideal in a bar situation.Master these 3 techniques and you will never have a problem: 1 Groin kick., 2 eye/throat finger jab,3 elbows and environment weapons (beer bottles and stuff)...and how to run : )


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