Do you suspect all these guys going on about real street fights...?

...have never stepped in a dojo in their life and just spend their time mouthing off about styles from watching MMA fights?





It just seems to me anyone who has ever gone through the trouble of learning an art will have a bit more wisdom and modesty than that, and realize that smart people don't try to win street fight - they like to be prepared in case of assault, but they don't worry about street fights, because they don't intend to get in one.

Do you suspect all these guys going on about real street fights...?
street fights can be the only true test of your ability to survive.





the only thing there though is that you dont need to have them to feel good about yourself.





but no one can say that because they have x amount of years training, and trophies, that they can win outside the dojo. it just doesnt match up.





as soon as you get into trouble outside the dojo, you can feel the difference.





so while I agree that the street (anywhere outside the dojo) is the true test of ability. it isnt the only way to live. and besides, no 2 fights are the same, and unless you continuously fight new people outide, you can be sure that the last one was a lucky win.





it is much better to be too busy to fight, by being at work, at home, or spending time with the family.





but hell, if it comes down to it, one day you may not be able to avoid that confrontation. have you been taught other ways to defuse situations other that with muscle? see, through street awareness you can learn to avoid a fight while being confronted with one. they dont teach that in the dojo, you only learn it through living the experience.





so never assume you will never get into one.


and street fighters should never assume that the shy looking guy is a push over.





it rocks both ways.
Reply:yea street fighting is bad, especially when the other guy pulls a gun...don't care how long you practiced martial arts, you can't dodge a bullet
Reply:I agree, martial arts teaches you to be wise and modest. It takes years of experience to master it.
Reply:That is the way it usually works.


Yes, there are some people who are very interested in MMA, which is the "New Thing". Maybe talking about it will eventually get the into a school. Who knows.





Most people who study martial arts are calmed by it. I have seen a couple of bad apples over the years - guys who go out and misuse what they have learned. I want to believe they are the exception, not the norm.
Reply:couldn't agree more.it seems a lt of ppl think a real situation is having a fight with a 65 year old man with a wooden leg over a spilt drink. a martial artist shouldn't be involved in street fights he should defend himself when hes attacked.
Reply:Do I EVER suspect? I ALWAYS assume that they have no MArtial Arts background. Some probabably have experience in bars beating up drunks.
Reply:I have no problem with that. I agree with you 110%.
Reply:I am starting to want to be a part of a new community
Reply:Ok I'm assuming this question is mainly pointed at me.





First of all I've never fought in MMA match. I've fought in wrestling, Muay Thai, and boxing but not MMA.





So if you still think I've never step in a dojo in my life time, go to my myspace and I dare you to tell me I never set my foot in a dojo in my life time:


www.myspace.com/ninedemonsgod





I've trained in Shotokan karate and absolutely hate it because all I did was kata everyday for 3 months. I've took few Tae Kwon Do class, it was okay but never liked the feeling of it. I've took Hapkido, while it's step up form Tae Kwon Do, there's still many things that are quite questionable. I've took jeet kune do and found out most jeet kune do instructor usually aren't even qualified to teach. I've tried Wing Chun it was pretty fun but I just see too many hollow in the game. I've tried Bujinkan as well and I plainly hate it, everything leave me wondering if the practictor are a compeletely idiot. I have tried many other things.





In end I just figured out that if I want to learn something that I can actually watch other test out at full force or test it out, I would have to pay more attention to competitiontive arts such as judo, muay thai, wrestling, kyokushin karate, eshin karate, shidokan karate, San Shou, MMA, etc... Because that's only way where I can actually see techniques being executed and applied.





In my opinion to learn martial arts and never spar full contact is like as using water gun to practice shooting a .357 pistol then carry a .357 around but never pull a tigger on it.





As for street fight, I've got in only two. One was in heavily crowded place in public mall food court near to xmas time. Guess what I use? I use Judo! Yes I threw the guy and put lock on him until securities come.





Second time I use brazilian jiu jitsu to choke the guy until he passed out and it was in a public bus.





I never frozen or stall at either time while both time the guy was shocked. The second time, the guy have a knife and he never manage to use it because he was scared and stalled and before he realize it, the choke was sank in too deep for him to do much.





So what do you think would have happen if I question my ability and try to think about it as I try to apply it? I would like to hear your answer on this one. I truly believe it's all experience from training full contact under safety rule that saved my butt twice.





And if you're curious, you can always keep checking my blog on my 360 page, I like to write a lot and I write about various things. You'll learn a lot more about why I think the way I did if you read it.
Reply:Anytime I read these "I have studied EVERY SYSTEM EVER" posts (as well as the "MMA RULES BECAUSE IT'S EVERYTHING!") posts, I just think of a Korean proverb:





한우물만 파라


If you're going to dig a well, dig only one





In other words, a jack-of-all-trades is master of none.
Reply:I think they spend most of their time touching themselves while watching "Roadhouse".
Reply:What's wrong with wanting to fight, to prove who and what you are among brothers with the same mind set. Socrate and Aristotle were both great wrestlers and even bounced unruly students out of their classes. What wrong with fighting, some people enjoy the physical combat, the test of strength and ability and can do so without animosity. I enjoy fighting, I don't care for bar fights anymore (older and wiser bar fights don't always end when one guy is out, they end when a guys gets stabbed, stomped, killed) So now I haveto find others in fight clubs, where respect and skill govern. Yes you can beat a guy, and still buy him a beer after, why do most have sooo much pride that stops them from just enjoying the battle.
Reply:FINALLY!!!!!!! Finally somebody who gets it. What's the deal with all these trigger happy kids wanting to learn how to beat the tar out of somebody? Karate isn't about learning how to fight. It's about learning how NOT to fight.