Monday, November 16, 2009

Martial arts in street fight?

Just curious as to what moves you martial artist have (successfully) used in a real fight, I tried using tecniques I learned at the dojo, but just ended up scappy :( any input/thoughts/experiences would be appreciated, cheers


btw- my expereince includes mui thai,tkd, wing chun, a little bjj...

Martial arts in street fight?
The only real altercation i was in, i was hammederd drunk, and a guy was running at me throwing a punch, as a white belt in tkd i learned 8 movements to block and counter a punch, learned it on my second day, and the first movement is what i did, side block and punch and the guy was out like a light, should have stopped after two days of classes, the next 6 years of my life was a waste (only a joke)
Reply:BJJ is the best. start of with a kick to the leg if you have good kicking techniques. Those will hurt the person. Next drop them go full mount and whail away..
Reply:i prefer the 1 hit ko techniques


i dont know if you know my style





my favorite is a roundhouse to the face at full speed(no need for control if they are attacking you)


they wont get up from that





just for clarification i believe the best way to ensure a successful hit is to be so fast they cant even tell you are attacking before they get hit
Reply:Fake side kick to the leg (knee or even ankle)... and when he lowers his hands instinctively to block or catch your leg you side-kick him in the head. It only will work if executed really fast because the energy that will go into the final kick must start generating from the fake kick... Practice with partner many times before trying that in street fight!
Reply:If you truly want to learn a martial art for self defense and street fighting, then look at combat styles taught to special forces like krav maga or kung fu san soo. You will be taught skills to end a fight and disable your attacker in under 5 seconds. You won't learn to dance around and be an acrobat, you will learn to be a fighter and warrior. There will no tournaments or competitions, only survival fighting, but you will have to study and work very hard to become a master.





In a real street fight or mugging you must learn to strike as a coiled rattlesnake, without thinking, in a nanosecond to leave the thug as disabled as possible so you can escape in one piece and the thug in agony waiting for an ambulance to take him to the hospital with broken bones and joints. There are no rules to follow in a real confrontation.





I decided to get combat training from 2 street fighter masters after I was attacked several times . One time me and a friend and his girlfriend were out at a pizza bar drinking and came out to the parking lot, got in the car and it wouldn't start. All of a sudden this drunk punk appears holding one of the battery cables, laughing and scaring us and said he was gonna beat us all up. I was in the back seat and he told me to roll down the window, which I did because he intimidated us. He started pushing my face and putting his finger, snapping my cheek. At that time, I was a 17 year old kid afraid with no combat training. luckily he had no guns or knives and finally he let us go.





But now after the training if that same incident occured, I realized that because he was in my strike zone, which is within an arms length, I would have had the advantage. In a nano second, I would have grabbed his finger in my face, broken it to disable and to distract and then with my other hand in an other nanosecond, I would have struck his throat or windpipe, strike a full blow to break his nose, thrust my 2 front fingers in his eye socket or attempted to rip off his ear, whatever it took to get away. I didn't know how life threatening this dude was or if he had weapons to kill us or what. Also he was drunk but mean and sadistic, so there would be no mercy. Now I know this sounds brutal, but that's what you have to learn if you are attacked in the street. There is no time to spar or dance around with fancy kicks and forms and moves. If the attacker is in your strike zone, with the proper training, you will have the advantage and will strike in a nanosecond as a reflex as the coiled rattler does, the lynx or grizzly bear. In less than 3 seconds you must disable and leave the attacker in painful agony and knocked down so you can run ASAP. That's the kind of martial art to learn, krav maga or kunk fu san soo, combat training. You must learn as a barbarian. You will bite, scratch, pull hair, cream some dudes testicles if necessary, break a knee cap or jaw, whatever it takes to get away alive





Hope this helps, because that is the real world out there and the next thing is awareness. Learn not to be a victim and study where you are, where you go and when
Reply:I've used both judo throws and kung fu blocks and strikes in real fights, both being extremely effective for me and leading to the incapacitation of my attackers. Of course it depends on the practitioner, but all martial arts can be useful in a real fight. You just have to know how to apply it.
Reply:I think part of the problem is that people today expect to go into a class and learn something in an hour or two that they can use to beat up everyone on the street.





Remember that these arts were used for real life and death fighting, they were kids when they started learning and they trained hard every day. They practiced techniques thousands of times with increasing resistance and in different environments. Then, maybe after 5-10 years, they were ready to go to battle.
Reply:Martial arts are a way to do things, a blueprint.... Nothing will ever look or feel that clean in a real life or death situation.
Reply:The last fight I was in I used a comination of Aikido, Boxing and grappling. You can't go into a fight and say"this is what I am going to do". Instead you have to react to what ever they throw at you. Because the attacker could also be trained in fighting so you might walk into a punch or kick or even a takedown. Be ready for everything and use what you need.
Reply:You have to spar often in the dojo to make it work....If you spar often and do your road work regularly, you should have an edge in endurance and nerve in most situation.
Reply:all the boxing i learned and elbows i learned from karate nothing else i tried some wrist locks but i stopped cause it was clear they where going to hurt the guy and im not a dick (its strange you cant do locks without hurting people it sucks)
Reply:Fortunately I've neve had to defend myself too seriously recently - or since beginning my formal study of martial arts. Also fortunately, only a few of my students over the years have had to ( say 5 or 7 or so ).





Quick, effective, simple, and clean are the watchwords. You need to assess each situation individually and determine what will make most sense. All my students used their TaeKwon-Do skills for defense, and all reported simple techniques executed only one or two times were sufficient. Straight line, simple, attacks with hard weapons to soft targets that impacted the aggressor signficantly without causing permanent damage. Front snap kick, a palm heel strike to the jaw, and elbow to the ribs were some I remember.





Never something anyone WANTS to do - hopefully.





Ken C


9th Dan HapMoosaKi-Do


8th Dan TaeKwon-Do


7th Dan YongChul-Do


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