Monday, November 16, 2009

Would JUDO work in a real street fight ? Please limit responses from people who actually practiced judo.?

I know one person who took it, and didnt think it would work in a real fight, say for example if someone was trying to punch you in the face (the most common form of assault I can think off).

Would JUDO work in a real street fight ? Please limit responses from people who actually practiced judo.?
One-on-one Judo is a strong tool.





Remember the rules and techniques of Judo have been adjusted to minimize injury. Many of the throws can easily and intuitively be transformed towards Japanese Jujistu-type throws. In this art Uke is often delivered to the ground in a bad position (like on his head or the point of his shoulder or with the combined force and focus of tori’s weight). Also the helpful lifting action we practice at the end of each throw can usually be converted into an arm bar.





Also Judoka have good mat work. If the fight devolves to the ground, the Judo player has an above average chance.





Judo’s limitations come in retreat. Once you grab a hold of someone, they also have a hold of you. If things turn against you, your chance to run away are very limited.





Judo players often have the bad habit of leading with their chin. They are trying to close the gap, and striking is completely absent in the practice of Judo. So often the Judoka is not ‘thinking” about avoiding a strike.





Finally Judo is not very adaptable to multiple opponents. Good strikers can easily fight multiple opponents. By locking up with a single person, the Judoka becomes vulnerable to attacks from others. And generally Judo finishes on the floor. Being on the floor is a bad place to be in a bar room fight (broken glass, bar stools and pool cues).





Judo is a great bridge between striking and pure ground fighting, but Judo has its limitations as do all martial arts. This is why we’ve come to MMA.
Reply:judo, like any martial art or any type of fighting training is not going to be applicable in all situations and is only going to be as effective as your training level.





If you trained judo, with only the consideration of using it as a sport in competition in mind, then it will be applicable and certainly aspects of it can be used, but not as effectively as someone who has trained to mix thier judo with striking and practiced at that intensity of sparring (realistically sparring).





If the person didn't think it would work ever, then he probably hasn't been in a real fight.





the idea of grabbing each other's gi's and scoring points is not applicable however, getting someone down (throw) and using thier jacket (gi) to do so is.
Reply:yes and no. it really depends on how versatile the person using th form is and how well theyvve practice. all traditional forms are limited by thei individual weaknesses. judo is a good grappling form and if you manage to adapt throws without a gi youre set. one possible throw is when they punch at you, you grab their wrist, move you leg between their, push up on their armpit with your free arm and bend forward all in one motion. this should allow you to throw sumone whos just wearing a t shirt, giving you nothing to grab. in fact there are many throws you can execute including the one where you drop, lock their leg and push them back into a knee bar.
Reply:Ask Gene Lebell who wasted boxing legend Milo Savage ( and had to hide when leaving due to an angry crowd )and the list goes on and on. He is a Judoka and has a record that explains the true reply here. All comes down to person, training and desire. Gracie Jiu Jitsu is a direct example of Judo in action after going to a group willing to use and adapt it. Their style came from a Judoka in Japan titled the Count Of Combat. Then you also have Mr. Swain the World Champion. Trust me he can street fight if need be, ask again Chuck Liddell who trains under ( with ) Mr. Swain the World Judo Champion.
Reply:For me it would because I also did alot of boxing.





It is a legitimate criticism though that when practicing Judo no one teaches you how to defend punches or kicks. If you can avoid the punches and kicks it is an awesome self defense system. There are so many devastating throws you could use. Also since most people wear clothes the throws actually might be better than the throws someone in freestyle wrestling would use.





If throwing someone on their head doesn't work in a street fight what will?
Reply:Judo has worked in fighting before, iv read stories about old Judoka defending themselves against buglers and such, but alot of the Judo today is really wattered down, there is alot of real Judo that isnt taught in most school anymore and that leaves it lacking





Anything will work against someone who doesnt know anything about fighting even TKD, its when someone has a little experience that those kind of sport orientated arts begin to lack
Reply:Will jujitsu do?The nastiest street fighter I ever met was a 3rd dan in judo.Depends on the individual "the art does not make the man but the man makes the art"





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Reply:Yes it works.





It all falls in the end to the practionner if they can recall their training when it is needed or if they freeze up or have done the technique wrong.





It works really well. I once took a man blitzing me with a punch to the face and I grabbed his right arm he swung with twisted my hip under him and flipped him over and then used Ju jitsu to incapcitate him. fight was over and no one was hurt.





so YES it does work in the hands of a trained user and not going to freeze up.
Reply:using it as a sport in competition in mind, then it will be applicable and certainly aspects of it can be used.The only thing I had against Judo is that they tend to break/loose there own balance when throwing/flipping another person.From there it turns into a ground fight.But 90% of the time that is were you end up. Unlike Aikido were it hardly ever goes to ground fight because there joints are snapped and the fight is over, and there is no need to go there.
Reply:haha im geting in a fight tomarrow :) with another 16 year old, judo is really flashy aand i guess yeah it will work, but try sticking to striking

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