Thursday, November 12, 2009

Does size matter in a street fight ?

im 6'2 and i practice TKD, and i was wonderin if i get into a street fight with a guy thats shorter than me, if i would be able to win





personally, i got alot of advantages because i know alot of TKD so that really helps secondly im very tall





what do you think?


or if i get in a fight with a short guy or a bit shorter than me?





give me opinions please

Does size matter in a street fight ?
no.. whoever has more intensity usually wins
Reply:of course it does. But sometimes smaller, more agile foes can win through strategy and taking advantage of the environment around them.





BUT, nowadays a weak sissy can just pull out a revolver and it'd be over, LOL
Reply:Oh god...I can't even concentrate on the question because of your name.......something about a street fight with a midget....
Reply:In a street fight between men, it is almost always the guy that gets the first clean shot in that wins. Just because you are taller doesn't mean you are going to win.
Reply:Yes it gives you a big advantage. No guarantees though.
Reply:He'll probably be faster and quicker. You just have to out smart him. Use your size and strength to your advantage.
Reply:Its never a sure thing. If both combatants are relatively inexperienced at fighting, Yes the bigger person will probably win.





You may have an advantage, but never assume the person you're fighting is inexperience because he/she is short. Often times short people are good wrestlers.
Reply:You can do it.
Reply:If you learned studio/tournament TKD and get in a rumble in the alley, send me a postcard from the ER.





Tae Kwon Do agrees on a set of rules where you have a given amount of space, areas are off-limits, etc. A smart 'street fighter' will recognize the fact you want to stay away and will use wrist locks, or elbows, or grappling you to the ground, taking away your skills and mauling you.





Remember the Karate Kid: best defense, no be there. If you're learning TKD to kick butt and take names... stay in the ring.
Reply:Actually knowing how to fight helps. Best bet in a street fight is flight.





If you are talking about a few inches it won't be much of a factor.





If it is like a 2 foot difference... why are you picking on little people?
Reply:No, size doesn't matter. It's skill, stamina and intensity that counts.





I'm 5"2 and all of the people or sparring partners i've ever had have been between 5"11 and 6"7. I've only ever lost two matches.





If you were to face a shorter person, no offence, but he or she would most likely be faster than you.





Although you would have a bit of advantage being taller(i.e. longer arms and legs so you don't have to go in as close to attack....You'd probably be a bit out of their range)
Reply:Nope, I also studied various martial arts and when I was real active I never lost to people that had me by 50lbs or more. I also lifted weights and had less than 10% body fat, but the rule is; connect first and its generally over with. Always remember a midget could jump up and clip you in the family jewels and kick your butt!





Second, thinking that you are a badass and getting into a street fight, could end up with someone poking a few holes in you with a 9mm. Trust me, I've been shot with a 9mm with hollow points and it "smarts" a "little" as well as leaving fairly large exit wounds, 9 years later I still don't have feeling in some parts of my body. As I've gotten older I perfer weapons myself and being a combat veteran, I really do know how to use them and will, if I think my lifes in danger!
Reply:I don't think size matters in a street fight,





...unless you're taking your pants off!





You're not taking them off are ya??
Reply:size matters, speed and power matters, skill matters and luck matters. thats life.
Reply:Size matters to an extent , thats why before pro bouts , they usually show the fighters reach along with weight and age ect. When striking reach advantage can be a plus , but a good striker can bob and weave and use your own height againts you , by coming on close and boxing inside the pocket , a great example would be Mike Tyson 5.11 Heavyweight.


Also in a streetfight you can be fighting a short stalky guy who can be a good wrestler or a submision fighter , and reach dont matter anymore once you hit the ground , then the compact stalky guy has the advantage.


So if you are a taller guy like yourself. then use that to your advantage. use your jab to keep the opponent far away , and use your long legs with pushkicks and side kicks. And for your own sake please dont try any of that spinning butterfly kick stuff.
Reply:Firstly:


Tae Kwon Do traditionally teaches wrist locks, elbows, and knees. Don't assume because the olympic style is the prominent type you see, that it's a standard. Many schools these days are cross training with grappling, and other arts such as BJJ and Hapkido as well. YOU FAIL!!!





Secondly:


Size is a factor in a street fight (Both height and weight), but it is something that works around your skills and fighting attributes (Speed, power, timing, heart, stamina, and so forth). That's if you see it from a TMA perspective: If you have great attributes, then they matter more. Someone that is taller than you may not have the extra power, speed, and so forth. Someone shorter than you might have that, and whatever other variation. You should keep it in your thoughts, but someone with those attributes are what you should watch out for.





When you're talking of moderate difference, they may even had advantages. I'm 5'11", but my armspan is 6'2". That helps me. lol


If your muscle-bound friend doesn't have any idea about throwing punches, then he might have an disadvantage, unless he grapples. It's endlessly complicated though. You should definitely elude the situation if you can, but you shouldn't freak out if someone is a little taller, bigger, and xyz than you. You have to compare your abilities and skills with that of your opponent (Or rather what your think they may have). I mean, if the tallest person in history (Robert Wadlow) had the muscles of an MMA fighter: I would not **** with him. :p





If someone the size of my brother (5'6", about 170-180 of lean muscle) wanted crap, and I couldn't elude: Then I would fight. That's biased of me, because my brother is a martial artist and fitness head. But of course if they're just muscles, then it might not say anything of there fighting skill. lol





Just keep it in the back of your mind, but don't have nightmares about it. Good luck, and I would advocate that you cross train in grappling to get well-rounded.
Reply:You're talking about height. It is an advantage -- especially against untrained people who arent' particularly good at closing distance.





Weight matters more, though. The heavier you are, the more weight you can potentially put behind your shots.





If you get into a fight with somebody shorter than you, winning or losing will depend on a whole slew of things. Height and weight are definitely amongst them, but they're far from the only determining factors.
Reply:Of course not.


I hope you know the concept of ranging. Suppose you opponent is short but good.


You are tall and do more kicking(TKD), you are in the advantage when you fight Long Range. This mean you can attack from a longer distance but opponent can not. You can kick from a distance but your opponent can not.


However there are some disadvantages with long range. You have to use long weapons (kick or staff) which tends to be slow because it has move more mass and more distance to travel to make contact. However If you keep distance from your opponent then can win the fight.


Then there is close quarter fighting (close range). As the name implies the distance between you and your opponents is just a matter of inches. This is where a shorter guy has the advantage. At close quarters you can not kick because you do not have the distance to execute it. Your opponent can use his hands ( punch, grapple or worst stab you with a knife) to attack you but you can not recounter. This is specially true because many fights flare out in bars where the fight is close quarter. Even worse TKD can not fight well in close quarters because it does not encourage the use of the hands.


I sometimes spar with TKD, stay close to them and they can't do anything.


From training in Dekiti Tirsia Siradas, tactics and techniques can negate the advantage of size any time.
Reply:The person with more skill in sparring/fighting usually wins.





However being tall gives you an advantage over those who are shorter, But being short also have an advantage which those who are tall don't. Being tall, you have an advantage of hitting/kicking them at least over the head, but it would take you longer to finish your attack. Whereas the shorter people can trip you from the bottom even though they don't have the advantage to hit/kick very high unless they can jump very high and kick. Shorter people have an advantage to be able to see your attack fast enough to dodge it because tall people have long arms and legs so once the tall person starts and attack, it's easy to see where the attack is coming from unless you are super fast in punching/kicking.





In a street fight, people don't fight fair so even if you do practice and know a lot of TKD moves, you may not win the fight.





I think my opinion was confusing @_@.
Reply:"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog."





But, if you practice TKD, you should be well trained to AVOID fighting if at all possible.
Reply:Honestly if you have enough time to determine that your opponent is smaller than you, then it wasn't an unexpected attack or a blindside. This should give you time to resolve the situation peacefully. Either by making a joke, attracting attention so there are witnesses(in case you do fight and it goes to court), playing a fool, drooling, acting retarded, etc.





That being said there is a old saying that a good big man will beat a ggood small man anytime, but nothing is certian. Look at Matt Serra vs. JSP.
Reply:You better hope that the tiny guy doesn't do BJJ or you're screwed!
Reply:it doesnt matter how big you are, if youre gonnae get attacked and the guy is bigger than you and you think sh!t im gonnae lose you will lose, youre frame of mind is what counts, if a guy is smaller than you like in your case, you wont nessecarily win just cause youre bigger, they could be a better fighter than you, theres always someone that is a better fighter than you it doesnt matter where you go in the world.
Reply:hey hey..you study tkd wel.. me and my dad have been doing tang soo do for a very long time and from experiance no hight does not matter at all...we are both very small i mean weve won champion ships agains people ouble the size of us...its how you do things. aha any more questions just ask mee yea.


:):)
Reply:Haha, you do TKD! LMAO! Height is nothing, especially when you're on the ground getting KTFO!
Reply:size dose not mater i seen guys that are 5,5 and wipe a 6,0 guy all over the place and i have seen vise verse it just mater what is in your hart i have see karate guys get there a s s whoop buy a guy that has no martial arts experience what so ever


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